Friday, April 8

Ping Pong IX : Agudist vs Zionist

LH: THIS IS THE ISRAEL NOBODY HEARS OR TALKS ABOUT!!  Take 3 minutes to listenspread!! https://player.vimeo.com/video/154464174
MS: This is nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of Jewish souls saved by our Frum brethren who run Chabad Houses all over the world:

LH: The Jewish people are leaders, and if we can move away from being insular and show the world that we care about all of G-d's children we might see the benefits of perspective from other peoples. G-d made everybody, not only Jews. The laws of Tzedaka also apply to helping non-Jews.

MS: We're supposed to be a light upon the nations, not leaders.  A light shines and shows the way, whereas a leader goes in front of the pack...
Being insular has proven a boon for the Jewish people, as assimilation was a bane.
G-d's children are first and foremost those who relate to Him as a Father figure, listening to his directives, fulfilling his instructions and avoiding to raise his wrath.  This is sadly not the case when millions of our brethren are blatantly violating the most hallowed, valued and precious precepts that He commanded us, His beloved firstborn. 
All other 'children' have features that may contribute to mankind, to the Jewish people and to the world, but they cannot serve as role models for the oldest of them all: the Hebrew nation.  We Jews are here to exemplify G-dliness, others are here to facilitate our success, as they themselves are admitting from any pulpit, be it political or social...
When G-d made everybody, He waited twenty generations for the first Jew to appear.  It only took five generations before He had to steamroll Europe out of its Jews - for the simple reason that the Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist, Communist and Zionist movements - all founded by Jews - undid all His handiwork of millennia.
True, the laws of Tzedakah apply to helping non-Jews, but only as a safeguard to prevent non-Jews fomenting hatred, bigotry or worse, rampage against the true sons of G-d.  Only when all Torah-true institutions will be free of debt, can we turn our attention to help the less fortunate non-Jews.

LH: The Torah instructs us to "love thy neighbour". This also applies to strangers in our midst.

MS: Please check your sources.  The Torah instructs us to "love thy neighbour", which refers to someone who acts, behaves and adheres by Torah law.

LH: the strangers will include goyim, who ought to act according to the 7 Noahide laws.

I do not agree with assimilation. You say it was a bane, it still is, but we have to accept we are living in a modern world and come across all types of people. We need not be insular, and we ought to have knowledge of the world around us, otherwise we will not see and be surprised by a second Shoah and when it might take place. There is more of a problem from both the left and right wings of the Jewish people, than there is from other nations (those who at least follow the Noahide laws). In about 1980, I worked for a Jewish accountancy firm, considered one of the biggest Jewish practices in the Country.They employed a guy from Malaysia, who was openly a Jew hater, but there was nobody at that time I felt I could approach to complain about him. I was eventually sacked because I refused to do an audit in Inverness, which would have entailed working on Shabbat, One of the partners in my final meeting (I was offered no representation or grievance person) took up thst point, wrongly (in part at that time, as opposed to today) accusing me of not being Shomar Shabbat. He had married a Jew, but was a non-Jew. He converted to become a well known Masorti Rabbi in Redbridge. These people are the real dangers in our midst.

Prince Charles has been to the Kotel in recent months, photographed in a cupple. How do you think the Iranians will view that?

I agree with your last paragraph that we need safeguards to prevent non-Jews fomenting hatred. These safeguards should also consider those people in Stamford Hill (however small in number), burning the Israeli flag along with brainwashed young children, and for them to protest in Whitehall on Tisha B'Av (I was there on the opposite side of the road) in favour of the Iranians, against Israel, and for one of them to say, that because I didn't dress in their black uniform, that I was a non-Jew, as if the Torah demands we should all dress the same.

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