Friday, April 8

Ping Pong II : Agudist vs Zionist

LH: Weekly Update from Campaign Against Antisemitism
MS: Instead of combating antisemitsim, increase awareness of Judaism amongst our brethren who lost any vestige of their rich heritage over the last decade
LH: How then do you balance this up with the group of Charedim who were outside 10 Downing Street on Tisha Ba'Av, protesting against Israel and Israel's existence, and in favour of Iran and the US appeasement process? They are unaware of anything that goes on outside Stamford Hill. for that matter, many orthodox people walked into the gas chambers like lambs to the slaughter.
Yes we do have irreligious Jews, who "have lost any vestige of their rich heritage", but they are also aware of their Jewishness and want to battle anti-Semitism in their own way, so good on them.
Another group we have is unfortunately the self-hating Jews, not just those mentioned in the first paragraph, but those friends of the BDS and anti-Israel groups like Jews for Palestinians, one of whom has publicly (in the past) denied her Jewishness in the Jewish Chronicle and elsewhere, until it now suits her to run down Israel.
Then there are the Israelis living in the UK, who think that UK Jews should leave Israel to their own devices, and do not consider it appropriate to even appreciate UK donations to Israel.
MS: Dear LH,
Re: Campaign Against Antisemitism
Let me answer you on each and every of your arguments:

On 26 October 2015 at 13:43, LH wrote:

How then do you balance this up with the group of Charedim who were outside 10 Downing Street on Tisha Ba'Av, protesting against Israel and Israel's existence, and in favour of Iran and the US appeasement process? They are unaware of anything that goes on outside Stamford Hill.
As you rightly write, it's a group of Charedim - a tiny minority, who also "have lost any vestige of their rich heritage" but call themselves guardians of Judaism.   
They are fully cognisant of what 'goes on outside Stamford Hill; they choose to ignore it.
for that matter, many orthodox people walked into the gas chambers like lambs to the slaughter.
They went like lambs to slaughter with their heads held high. 
My uncle was a member of the Sonderkommando and told me about the Shochet of one of the many Polish villages who arrived into the undressing room and upon realising what is about to happen picked up a German soldier and sliced his throat with his Chalaff (slaughter knife).
This is just one of many heroic acts of active resistance shown by Jewish people, who - having been subjected to the most base living conditions, rationed food, filthy transportation and horrendous humiliation - still had the courage to fight until their last minute in this vile place on earth called Auschwitz. 
Whilst mentioning walking "like lambs to slaughter", let's not forget the tens of thousands of Polish noblemen and army officers who were machine gunned by the invading Russian army or the hundreds of thousands of Russian Army heroes who were mowed down by the advancing Pantzer divisions. 
Why, there's even full colour footage of proud Syrian, Iraqi and Kurdish ISIS prisoners being led through desert dunes to their slaughter.  How do you explain their walk to the shooting pits like lambs to slaughter? 

Yes we do have irreligious Jews, who "have lost any vestige of their rich heritage", but they are also aware of their Jewishness and want to battle anti-Semitism in their own way, so good on them.

Irreligious Jews who are "aware of their Jewishness" are like cancer patients smoking cigarettes in the waiting room to chemotheraphy: they know that they should change their lifestyle, as their current way of life is a blatant denial of their responsibility as a member of the Jewish people. 
When you claim that these people "want to battle anti-Semitism in their own way", it sounds like a man who drinks seawater to prevent it from drowning him... 
The mere fact that he's not consonant with Jewish law is the cause for his suffering from the effects of anti-Semitism.  one cannot battle a disease by embracing its bacterium... 
When you write "so good to them", you inadvertently paraphrased the holy prophet Hosea, who said: "the wicked stumble in them" (Chapter 14, Verse 9).

Another group we have is unfortunately the self-hating Jews, not just those mentioned in the first paragraph, but those friends of the BDS and anti-Israel groups like Jews for Palestinians, one of whom has publicly (in the past) denied her Jewishness in the Jewish Chronicle and elsewhere, until it now suits her to run down Israel.

The self-hating Jews are not a new phenomenon; us Jews have a long memory and history is replete with creatures of their ilk: Spinoza, Mendelson and Herczl to name a few.   
The common denominator of the above-mentioned trio is that they sought to replace their biological right to the most exalted way of living with a 'weltanschauung' that is a cheap imitation of either Greek philosophy, Christian theology and national Bolshevism (in this order).   
BDS'ers hate the fact that they are Jewish and want to show the world that being Jewish doesn't mean embracing Israel.  Incidentally, this goes for the fuirst group mentioned above: the so-called guardians of Judaism... How warped the world has become!!!

Then there are the Israelis living in the UK, who think that UK Jews should leave Israel to their own devices, and do not consider it appropriate to even appreciate UK donations to Israel.

You have to admit that no self-respecting citizen will be ready to accept criticism - even of the constructive genre - when it comes from an alien: you don't tell me how to run my country. 
Likewise, Israelis (at least the ones brought up on the bedrock of Zionist Nationalism) dislike any interference in 'their' country by outsiders. 
The fact that these same self outsiders have over the past century financed the birth, growth and upkeep of the entire Jewish homeland doesn't change this fact one iota: gratitude is in very small supply - especially from those on the receiving end.
I hope you will read the above answers more than once, as it would not do justice to the subject matter otherwise. Yours sincerely, MS
LH: lovely response

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